And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. Hes a large imposing man. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. I pray for the man. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. That this wasnt just James failure. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. And they are even beloved by God. And I sat and prayed. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. He knows! And I hadnt I hadnt signed that yet, I hadnt given a statement yet. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. . I look back at those meetings. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. This was a many time thing. Imagine such a thing. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. That didnt happen. The airing accelerated the timeline. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. It was demonic. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. . Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. This man has been your pastor for decades. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. And to give you the flavor of the meeting, when I walked in the room, and we all greeted each other, we were in the former executive pastors office around an oval table, and James McDonald sitting across from me. Theres 30 men in the room. After you guys. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 And I checked my voicemail. So he did that. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. So its critically important that the truth be told. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. Christians should stop feeding these people. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. All my legal fees got paid. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. You are Julie. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. Thats what the weight was. They should go to the reconciliation team. I remember saying we got to pray. To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. Theres no joy in doing this. Thankfully, I had headphones on. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and the men were the ones being abused we might hear them singing a different tune. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. I just thought, yeah. But according. I wasnt looking forward to that. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. Church, Ministry News Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. I think there was a group in the in the room that would have let him have the microphone that weekend. Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And if he doesnt, what does that mean in terms of employment at Harvest Bible Chapel? to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. She sends it to me and I wrote it. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. Just look at King David . Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Send your questions about the Bible, ministry, or personal matters below. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. And they started reading scripture about the qualifications of the elders. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. But, I dont believe I have ever heard anyone say in any of these posts, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. I wish I didnt. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. It was a conference call because it happened fast. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. 2. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. But would he have been able to save face do you think? Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. The marriage relationship has died. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? 1) Julie Roys. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Because I believe in the church. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I stepped into a conference room. And Im just trying to smear him. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? That was you, wasnt it? Jared Prayed for you just now. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. year. So I mean, again, this was round. Yet, Dan, you owned it. Good to be here. Only Gods opinion is what counts. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. Im Julie Roys. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. I called him. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. I believe it was from Mancow who texted me. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) Come out of her, my people. Who were all shameless self promoters. We did not hurry. Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . And I dont need to know. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. So who is he talking about? And I was muted on my phone. Why is that? His employment is coming to an end. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. So what happened? Tim, thanks I should have read before commenting and exactly! Thats a Tuesday night. . Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. Can you say what was in that letter? TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. Is that an accurate representation? In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. God will deal with him. Yes, it is. James MacDonald. He was in the many meetings leading up to McDonalds termination. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Again, youre seeing it from a total other perspective where Im the bad guy, James is a good guy. Great! Wives submit to your husbands. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. I felt physically sick reading the letter. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. . He would probably be wildly successful. Marin, I did not. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. Visconti wins the Internet! James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. And I stopped my car. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. Anne Green, who is married, alleged that MacDonald touched her inappropriately on a private plane in 2005. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. Honestly dont to this day. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And this is when everything really started happening. Yeah, yeah. And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. And so I felt relief. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. Am I right? Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. And now think about this. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. . This was months months later. @jamesmacdonald. And why do you do it in front of everybody? But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. Yeah, I can share some of it. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . And welcome to the podcast. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. Again, Dan was one of the elders who confronted James back in 2012, and then got excommunicated from Harvest. Patient, kind, not self-seeking. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. SMH. He is not a pastor. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. 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